傲视全球的美国科研及学术重镇麻省理工学院（MIT）这星期掀起了一股西藏热潮。
　今天ＭＩＴ请来达赖喇嘛发表演讲并为“MIT达赖喇嘛中心”揭幕。与此同时，ＭＩＴ的中国学生会所创办的“西藏论坛”也已正式启动，大有牵制“MIT达赖喇嘛中心”的意味，而事实上，后者正是在对ＭＩＴ所设立的这所以达赖命名的中心表示不满后成立的。
    在内容方面，“MIT达赖喇嘛中心”主要邀请各界领袖演讲，主持跨学科的专题讨论，思考探索高科技和重经济的发展对人类的冲击。而“MIT西藏论坛”则是针对美国民众对西藏问题认知的偏颇，ＭＩＴ中国学生会会长高璐对《世界日报》表示，过去半个世纪以来，西方的舆论宣传给广大民众留下许多关于西藏的错误印象和偏见，中国学生会希望透过论坛提供全面认识西藏问题的平台。
　  于25日正式啟用的“MIT西藏论坛”分重要文献、文化艺术、历史宗教、时事、旅游、现代发展六大主题，并提供张贴信息与回帖，方便讨论，目前上贴的信息已有数百条。
    高璐还表示：“我们愿意用开放的态度，探索真实”。为配合该论坛的启动，论坛还在28日举办了第一场演讲会，请来曾住过西藏的哈佛经济学习博士后学者龙飞主讲“中国西藏问题的历史与沿革”。这场以中国学生为主要听众的演讲进行得相对比较顺利，不过论坛隔天就引来一位自称Timothy美国读者的来信，质疑论坛如真的是在追求真实，就应该邀请这里的西藏人来对话，继而认为这些中国学生对西藏的认知千篇一律，是“因为已被洗脑”，并列举西藏在1959年后如何受蹂躏的例子。其后，不少中国学生留言反驳，并列举西藏在解放后消除了贫困等诸多建树。
    至此，中国学生与美国人围绕在西藏问题的新一轮讨论，通过“MIT西藏论坛”这个新出现的平台已悄然地展开。不难预见，该论坛日后也将引来更多中国人与美国人以及流亡藏人的参与，“讨论”将会迅速升温。
    其实，此类的“讨论”与“对话”并非MIT独有，在欧美各国都有不同形式的“对话”在进行，遗憾的是，这三十年来的“对话”仍然停留在各说各话，各自搜集、罗列对自己立场有利的历史、现实证据，以批驳对方的阶段。去年“西藏事件”发生后，在欧美各国当地民众与中国留学生之间产生的摩擦也屡见不鲜，笔者去年在哈佛也目睹了多场类似的“对话”。因此，作为新平台的“MIT西藏论坛”是否会朝向理性互动的健康方向发展，显然不应过度乐观。
    不过，从论坛目前仍容许张贴各种不同意见的现状来看，仍然有值得期待的地方。事实上，如果论坛的参与者都能如会长高璐所言，以“和平与理性为行动准则”，并以“探索真实”为目标的话，那么一切的讨论都不会白费。事实不正是越辩越白吗？    
                                                          二〇〇九年四月三十日笔于哈佛

〈参考资料〉以下是“MIT西藏论坛”中Timothy的来信与回应，内容截至今天，原文转载：

MIT Tibet Forum  (http://tibetforum.mit.edu/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=549&sid=a95c735abe0680a4454980ed43738df7)

A feedback from Timothy Pi, CFA
by MITTibetForum » Apr 29 2009 (22:15)

Dear Lu,

I read a report about MIT Tibet Forum in a local Chinese newspaper.

It is sad to see smart kids like you and other MIT Chinese students become Chinese communist regime's tools to spread false and misleading information.

If you really want to show the facts and truth about Tibet, why not just ask your government to open Tibet to western journalists to report how great the Tibet situation is

Do you know that after Communist regime invaded Tibet 50 years ago, more than 95% of Tibetan temples were destroyed?

If you really want to find out the truth, why not to set up a debate between your so-called expert with Tibetan people in Boston area.

Each year many Tibetans are killed by Chinese border guard while they tried to cross border into India. Three years ago, Belgium mountain climber filmed the whole incident.

In the film, Chinese border guards killed a young kid and a monk like hunting an animal.

Can you ask your so-called expert with the first experience to explain to me why it is necessary to do this?

Wake up. If you like the Chinese communist regime, please leave immediately and go home.

Do not stay in US to enjoy your freedom of speech while praising your brutal government's inhumane acts against others.

Regards,

Timothy Pi, CFAMITTibetForum
 
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Re: A feedback from Timothy Pi, CFA
by ygnaw » Apr 29 2009 (22:55)

Dear the so-called Timothy,

I am very intrigued by your so-called arguements and deeply impressed by the rudimentary logical contradiction you have made in your letter.
By the very definition, the freedom of speach allows me and other people, no matter whether they are American, British or Chinese citizens, to express WHATEVER political views we hold. It does NOT matter whether our views confirm to your so-called liberal, democratic ideology or not. By the very sentence of "If you like the Chinese communist regime, please leave immediately and go home", you are delivering a message that is essentially AUTHORITARIAN - my way or high way! I just feel this is very laughable and thus have to write this response.

Another issue that I'd like to raise is about personal manner. To have an intelligent and meaning dialogue, the two parties should, at least, hold mutual respect to each other. I am not sure the way you were throwing tantrum around could be helpful to anyone in this world! For people who are childish, I guess, dialogue might be a waste of time and education, or more accurately, guided education, could harvest better fruit. From this perspective, I highly recommend you to read the messages and information that have been posted on the forum. It may take a little bit of time for you to digest the content but definitely it's within your intellectual capability.

I'd also like to take the luxuary to answer some of the questions you list below (my apologies for not being able to answer all of them, as I have to finish process a dataset tonight :). 1) fifty years ago, the communist regime recovered China's sovereign claim over Tibet. It's not an invasion. If you do care so much about Tibet, please read some history books. Beijing started to have such sovereign claim over Tibetan region since the Yuan Dynasty. 2) you claimed that since the 1960s, 90% of Temples in the Tibetan regions were destroyed. Do not forget one thing - the percentage for destroyed temples could be much higher in other regions in the nation. Keep in your mind, China, as a nation, with the exception of the Taiwan, HK and Macao regions, suffered dearly during the Cultural Revolution. It is a NATIONAL tragedy. 3) Border-control is part of a state's sovereignty If you read Internaitonal Law, you can find this message easily. For illegal border crossing, each nation defines it differently in terms of severity. In China, we do try to take good care of our borders. By the way, the U.S. also defended its borders very rigorously, to say the least. When one accuses other nations, do not forget to look into his own nation's history. Feeling proud without self-reflection may often lead one to the wonderland of arrogance. Should I assume that you are still outside the gate?

One last sentence, I DO enjoy the freedom of speach in the U.S. a lot. At the same time, I love my home country. Even though there are many flaws in the current Chinese political, economic and social systems, the government is doing great, at least in terms of helping hundreds of millions of people walk out of poverty, and make China once again one of the greatest nations in the world. With great power comes great responsibility. However, that does not mean we have to tolerate people finger-point us in an arrogant, self-rightous, yet ignorant way.

Best regards,ygnaw

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Re: A feedback from Timothy Pi, CFA
by mit332010 » Apr 29 2009 (23:18)

Hi Tim, could you please elaborate on the relationship between "truth" and "Tibetan people in Boston"?
If you really want to find out the truth, why not to set up a debate between your so-called expert with Tibetan people in Boston area.mit332010
 
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Re: A feedback from Timothy Pi, CFA
by Timothy » Apr 29 2009 (23:33)

It is very interesting to see that I get identical or similar answers or responses whenever I discuss Tibetan issues with people from China.

I have heard every single one response or answer in your message from other Chinese from mainland China.

So we can see the long-term effect of Chinese communist regime's brain wash.

Just because the destruction was a national tragedy, it does not make it acceptable.

If a gangster comes to your village, robbing you, destroying your house, or even rape your family members,
will you say, it is a village-wide tragedy. so it is ok....

The argument "the government is doing great, at least in terms of helping hundreds of millions of people walk out of poverty, " has been
repeated many times by the communist regime.

We all now this is a lie. It cannot even pass the smell testTimothy
 
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Re: A feedback from Timothy Pi, CFA
by liduo » Apr 29 2009 (23:35)

Hi Timothy,

Opinions root in how much information you have and how you interpret it. This MIT Tibet Forum is aimed to balance the information on Tibet from the Western's perspective. Meanwhile, it provides opportunities and materials to re-think what one thought he/she knew.

I often read the news and opinions generated by Western journalists. I don't believe few of them are tools of Western regimes, because I am not willing to believe they are stupid and blind. I would rather say many of them are professional writers for a living.

The freedom of speech is not enjoyable if you don't truly understand what you are talking about, otherwise you are often subject to embarrassment. I believe the Chinese students studying abroad are in a better position to criticize the governments than anybody who stays in his/her home country and views the outside world through a windows as small as a television screen or a piece of newspaper.

Duo Liliduo
 
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Re: A feedback from Timothy Pi, CFA
by Timothy » Apr 29 2009 (23:37)

西藏问题真相与洗脑    曹长青
http://caochangqing.com/big5/newsdisp.php?News_ID=462  or  

http://tibetforum.mit.edu/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=549&sid=a95c735abe0680a4454980ed43738df7

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Re: A feedback from Timothy Pi, CFA
by massgg » Apr 29 2009 (23:47)

Everything is developing, not still,so is Communist Party in China. Don't simply label someone using words such as ganster. In fact, don't forget how European destroyed Indian's houses, villages and so on and became the master of the America. Is it acceptable to you or you want all European go back home?

Timothy wrote:
It is very interesting to see that I get identical or similar answers or responses whenever I discuss Tibetan issues with people from China.

I have heard every single one response or answer in your message from other Chinese from mainland China.

So we can see the long-term effect of Chinese communist regime's brain wash.

Just because the destruction was a national tragedy, it does not make it acceptable.

If a gangster comes to your village, robbing you, destroying your house, or even rape your family members,
will you say, it is a village-wide tragedy. so it is ok....

The argument "the government is doing great, at least in terms of helping hundreds of millions of people walk out of poverty, " has been
repeated many times by the communist regime.

We all now this is a lie. It cannot even pass the smell testmassgg
 
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Re: A feedback from Timothy Pi, CFA
by ygnaw » Apr 30 2009 (00:14)

if information based on interviews with a few people hold the truth, then opinion hold by one billion people must hold the absolute truth!
Just wonder what's your logic of using one information source that has long been discredited by even American China-hands?ygnaw
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注：该文贴出后，因参考资料转载了〈MIT西藏论坛〉网页内容，而其中不小心包括了敏感部分，以致整篇博文一度遭到蔽屏。今删除了该敏感部分，得以恢复其它本博文内容。特向读者说明，造成不便，谨以致歉，并请谅解。作者。5/5，1:45pm

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